Road Test: 2009 Toyota Venza

When any manufacturer, but particularly an industry titan like Toyota, rolls out a new vehicle that they say is “in a new class”, well, the hairs on any journalist’s neck stand up a bit. That was certainly the case as we listened to Toyota’s executives and engineers roll out the new Venza. But after a couple of days of driving it, talking to Toyota about it, and reviewing the data, we think they have a point. It’s a subtle point, but a point nonetheless.
You’ll notice that so far we haven’t said what the Venza “is”. We haven’t put it in a category. Before we discuss the category the vehicle belongs in, we invite you to do the same experiment we performed with some of our colleagues at the launch. Take a good look at the pictures of the Venza. What would you say this is? Just for fun, make a mental note of that, so you can compare your reaction to what a group of journalists said in response to the same question.
Of course, at some level it really doesn’t matter how the Venza (or any other vehicle) is categorized. The problem with categorization is that is makes it hard to see new things. If the iPhone is just a “cell phone” then it is hard to understand how different it is. A rational person might note that the world hardly needs its 829th cell phone and move on. But if you have an iPhone or have played with one, you know how vastly different it is and you know it isn’t just a cell phone. The category no longer matters when you’ve experienced reality.
And the reality of this Toyota is rather appealing, if you’re in the target market, because the Venza actually breaks with Toyota tradition in some fairly important ways.
Not Your Mother’s Toyota
Let’s start with driving dynamics. Just let that phrase wash over you for a moment. We’re at the start of a Toyota road test and we’re talking driving dynamics, rather than leaving it ‘til the end where hopefully no one will notice. At the opening launch dinner, Toyota execs brought up the need for good steering feel—without prompting. We almost passed out. Always a serious and sincere company, Toyota has made a serious and sincere effort to make the Venza fun to drive.
We took a V6 Venza AWD around a 20-mile loop of Pennsylvania mountain twisties at pretty close to full chat and came away impressed. First off, roll control is quite good. Actually, a lot of taller vehicles have some pretty hefty anti-roll bars attached so that may not seem exceptional, but there are several things to like about the Venza in this department. Unlike many SUVs, the Venza stays fairly flat as you push it (in contrast to, say, a Range Rover which initially resists roll, but as the cornering forces rise can’t resist tilting more and more). To maintain a decent ride, we noticed that the Toyota has only moderate roll damping (the BMW M3 takes a similar approach) but switchbacks are handled well, with minimal sloppiness.
The Venza’s handling is also nicely balanced front to rear—though it does tend towards understeer—and it feels happy carving through curves. Since the Toyota is lower and lighter than most SUVs or crossovers, you can feel physics helping (or at least not hurting). Let's be clear though, the overall sense given by the Venza is that it is well-mannered, not that it is exciting or involving.
We also drove FWD Venzas, with both the I-4 and V-6 engines, which handle in much the same way as the AWD model. The I-4 feels a little lighter, affecting the ride quality more than handling, with the V-6s being a little smoother. The FWD vehicles want to understeer just a tad more than the AWD, but one would have to drive them back-to-back to notice.
Venza’s ride quality is pleasantly firm, with large swoops and bumps being tracked very well. If Michigan or New York residents ever find out how smooth southwestern Pennsylvania roads are, there will be a riot. As a result, we can’t be sure about how the Venza handles the tragedy of typical urban roads. We did run two of our testers onto the shoulder multiple times in search of fragmented pavement and noticed very little ride harshness, which bodes well for commuter use on patchier pavement.
Performance is more than acceptable as well. The 268 hp V-6 feels strong and unstressed even in low-altitude mountains with a couple of passengers on board. Toyota has done some fine work on the six-speed transmission to make its shift points different for uphill or downhill runs, and we liked the relative lack of hunting for gears.
But Will It Do the MPG Dance?

The Venza’s V-6 is a fine engine, but with fuel economy on everyone’s mind, the I-4 is the big news. This new four cylinder is the key to Toyota’s intent of creating a vehicle that breaks with SUV and crossover tradition in fuel mileage. And, it does deliver better fuel mileage, as you would expect. Toyota estimates that EPA ratings for the I-4 will be 21 city and 29 highway in FWD form (take off 1 mpg for AWD), and the V-6 should come in at 19/26.
Whether 21/29 is enough better to capture buyer’s attention will remain to be seen. In all the hysteria of $4 gasoline consumer expectations about gas mileage have skyrocketed. While 24-25 mpg combined is actually a pretty good number, we suspect it will only inspire folks who are actually in showrooms or on the web comparing what is possible. Breaking through the 30 mpg barrier will await a possible hybrid version. Toyota won’t say a hybrid is coming, but the Venza is derived from the same architecture as the Camry, and there is a Camry hybrid, so it isn’t hard to imagine a Venza hybrid in a few years.
For 21/29 mileage to seem desirable, you also have to consider how the 2.7L drives. With 182 hp and 182 lb.-ft. of torque pulling 3760 lb., the numbers don’t seem especially impressive. But 2.7L is a big four and relative to the V-6, is only down on torque about 10 percent at 2500 rpm. The result is that the I-4 feels strong and seems completely adequate for most normal driving. If you love a strong engine or you need the towing capacity (3500 lb for the V-6 vs. 2500 for the I-4), the V-6 will, however, be the engine of choice.

That’s A Toyota?
The second area where the Venza departs from Toyota tradition is in its design. Before our drive we grabbed a cup of coffee in a vain attempt to overcome a time zone shift, and stumbled, half-asleep, over to the technical presentation. On the way, Toyota had set up a Venza, and it was our first sight of the vehicle. Honestly, our first thought was “what the heck is some new Infiniti doing here?” Somewhere in our intuition, the Venza clearly registers differently than Toyotas of the past.
Our second thought was “that looks pretty sharp.” Beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course, but we’d say the majority opinion at the launch was that the exterior of the Venza was very well executed. Almost every angle of the vehicle looks carefully shaped.
Interior materials are similarly attractive and definitely not grabbed at random from the Toyota parts bin. We think this is a big step forward, as Japanese interiors over the past years have slipped behind not only the European but often the Americans.
More important than how the design looks though, is how it “reads”.” Is the Venza big or small? Rugged or stylish? Youthful or conservative? In these times of shifting automotive priorities and tastes, these factors will probably have a lot to do with whether the Toyota succeeds and whether it appeals to you.
And that read is pretty hard to tell from pictures, one has to see it in person. We noticed that the Venza doesn’t come off as an SUV, being a bit too low and sleek. It could almost pass for a station wagon, except that it seems more stylish and muscular than most sedan-derived wagons. It doesn’t look tall, like some crossovers, despite having 8 inches of ground clearance. It is basically the same length as a Camry, so it doesn’t seem small, but it isn’t big either. Frankly, if you want a true four-passenger vehicle that’s practical and looks politically correct, but not so boring, conservative, or downscale as a sedan or hatchback, we think the Venza will seem “just right” (apologies to Goldilocks).

Practical Matters
Of course, for all the talk of the Venza being different from past products, we shouldn’t forget that it is in fact a Toyota. That means that some serious thought has been put into passenger comfort, ergonomics and features.
Seat comfort in the Venza is very good, with nicely firm, reasonably cosseting cushions. The fabric is attractive and substantial enough that one doesn’t have to opt for leather to get a decent seat.
Toyota’s engineers have put an impressive effort into the ingress and egress aspects of the Venza. The seat height has been optimized to use minimum force from your legs. Engineers put force sensors on real human legs and found the height that minimized muscular output. Any higher or lower seat and it would take more effort to get in or out. No kidding. We tried it and it seemed to work. They also worked on the sill shape to make entry/exit easier and cleaner.
This seat height, coupled with ample glass area, makes sightlines pretty good. The A-pillar intrudes a bit in the front, and some will want an even taller vehicle, but the Venza will suit many drivers who place a premium on visibility.
The rear seat is also well done, placed farther rearward than in a sedan like a Camry, and giving the Venza excellent rear legroom. The slight higher than normal roof, along with a flat roofline, allows for excellent headroom. The two-panel sunroof also increases rear headroom with the sunshade open, because there is no headliner in the second row.
With 34.4 cubic feet of cargo space behind the second row seats, the Venza has just average cargo capacity when compared with crossovers. But compared with a sedan, the Venza has the big advantage of wagon-style load area.
Available option packages deliver most modern gizmos. Two newish options on offer are automatic high beam headlights and Bluetooth music streaming. Even one doesn’t get the rather mediocre JBL Synthesis surround sound system with Bluetooth streaming, there is an auxiliary in jack for your iPod or other music player (but no interface that integrates with the in-dash display).
Pricing for the Venza starts at $25,975 for the four-cylinder FWD version. At the other end of the spectrum, the V-6 AWD has an MSRP of $29,250. See the NextAutos Buyer’s Guide for more details on options and pricing.
So What the Heck Is It?
By now you may think we’ve forgotten our little experiment (what do you think the Venza is?); we haven’t. Here’s what our informal poll of journalists at the Venza launch said:
14% -- “It’s a wagon”
35% -- “It’s sort of a wagon, but not exactly”
42% -- “It’s a crossover – whatever that is”
9% -- “It’s a car”
We think it doesn’t really matter. One guy summed it well: “This is a vehicle I could actually see myself buying”. We can see a lot of people saying that.
The V-6 comes out in December, followed by the four cylinder in January.
See the NextAutos Buyer’s Guide for more details on our experience with the Venza, options and pricing.

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David J Corcoran
Where I come from we call that a station wagon
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I really have to get a photo of the Chevy Avalanche running around out here in the Sugar Land area that is done up in the lv graphics.
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I like the design of this car. It definitely has alot of space inside which i like. Toyotas make
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Anonymous
Where I come from that's a station wagon that doesn't look lame.
Mena
I fail to see the confusion. The car is clearly a crossover. It looks like every other crossover on the market.
Tom Martin
I think the confusion, if there is any, starts with the industry definition of crossover: a unit body vehicle with higher than car ride height and 5 doors. By that definition, the Venza is clearly a crossover. But so is the Lexus RX-350, BMW X5, Buick Enclave, Subaru Outback, Mazda CX-9 and Ford Escape. Crossover is starting to seem a bit broad for such a big category to some journalists. Maybe consumers don't care.
I would add that, in person, the Venza has different proportions than most vehicles we call crossovers today. In that regard, it is like the M-B CLS -- sure its a sedan, only not quite.
Mena
I would call the CLS a sedan because that's what it is, marketing speak or not. I would also call the vehicles you mentioned crossovers too. Maybe I'm just simple minded.
Tom Martin
The consumer is always right.
mo
I think the front resembles Ford edge, 3-beam grille, headlights that narrows down at the sides. the back is just a volvo (especially the tail lights). Sorry WR but I don't see any creativity in the design, it is boring just like all other toyotas.
about those who need glasses, the car is a crossover. If there were ppl who are dumb enough to put "It's a car" then I should thank God in every moment of my life that he gave me a functional brain, Amen.
Tom Martin
Mo -- I think the "it's a car" sentiment was to indicate "well, it's not a truck/SUV and other than that who cares what we call it?" A lot of journalists are tired of the "crossover" thing because it seems like a catch-all that doesn't mean anything to most consumers.
mo
if we are to put a category for each stupid car in the market, we will end up with infinite number of classes. the CLS is just an attractive E-class with less functionality. Same with the X6, it is just an attractive X5 with less functionality. the toyota venza is just a crossover. end of story.
Len2U
Thank you and god in the same sentence? and to think you have a brain. Now I've heard it all.
Thanks you made your point. No need to reflect further.
Anonymous
I don't think they said it was creative, they said it was well-executed. Still, it does look a bit like the vehicles you mentioned. Personally, I don't think that's bad. This looks a lot better than a Camry or a Highlander to me.
tate
It is the second exciting Toyota that i have seen (i am 30). It is actually too low to be a cross over and a tad too high to be a wagon. So its a stunted crossover!
Hope driving dynamic are as good as mentioned here, else it will be just another appliance like Toyota.
Anonymous
It's got the same drivetrain as the RX350, at least the engine and the transmission are the same. The only bad thing is that it lacks the RX350's cargo capacity. This beats it in price, looks and value though
christomapher
i can easily see this becoming a new standard type of car instead of the sedan. they should call it a "new sedan". crossover is very broad.
shadow
In my opinion, it's very smart.
The CUV segment, as I see it was the next phase of "Minivan mania" All those suburban housewives wanted to drive something with a more truckishness... so they created a less-feminine CUV (Compromise Utility Vehicle).
Venza will appeal to early adopters who don't like cars that look like breadboxes or toasters.People who don't want 3rd row seating (YUK). People who value funcionality and style over brute horsepower will like Venza too. People who would buy a Lexus but can't afford one will fit into this category as well. People who are torn between segments may see Venza as an attractive alternative to what's out there. To all you station-wagoners... I doubt Toyota has plans for a woodgrain version so you might as well quit calling it a wagon.
Venza is what other vehicles are not and that may be it's greatest strength.
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The Venza is an exciting new offering from Toyota. The CUV/sedan-station wagon look is genius. It's something new and fresh from the Japanese carmaker.
Anonymous
If I squint when I look at the pics I see a sleek Camry station wagon. That said, everything else says its a crossover.
rob earl
That gearshift lever placement makes it seem more like a van. Big mistake.
rob earl
Also, noticed the wheels look big for the height, which is good. But the driver in the photo is either a very big guy or the Venza is a lot smaller than I imagined from the other photos.
Redshark
I agree. This is obviously a car-based crossover/new wagon in the vernacular of the Ford Edge/Taurus X. I think it is pretty handsome unlike the Camry, though it does share design elements.
Anonymous
Damm Toyota, ripping off our Hyundai interiors. A crazy Mix of Accent(center stack and two tone interior), Genesis (Interior trimmings and center stack), and an Elantra gauge cluster to wrap it all off. The only thing thats absolutely original is the trans shift in the center stack.
Just had to do that for the many times Hyundai has been accused of ripping peoples cars off. However, It is a good design. I just think they should have a smaller 4 in there that gets 32-33 MPG, marketed solely as a big hatch with fuel econ. This will 29 MPG Version will be popular as long as gas stays below $2.75, and we all know that wont happen in the 2-5 year future. If you think about it, the smaller Matrix gets less MPG by size ratio. Then again, the B-C segment cars that get sold in America with the largest engines they can find, since the fatties find 45-55MPG 90-100 Horse engines too inadequate to go up a hill. This car kind of, but not all the way follows that concept.
Anonymous
News flash: Crossover = station wagon.
Therefore, it's a station wagon, since 91% of journalists agree.
As far as a vehicle I would drive: I like station wagons, please give me one which is is not the spiritual successor to the aztec.
ricks74911t@yah...
The ride height is too low for a crossover. Although, it looks like one. From what I've read it drives very much like a sedan. The interior is very much like an Avalon. It is practical, upscale, attractive, well equipped, can be frugal, and comfortable. It seems to me to be a Chrysler Pacifica done better, what ever it was is what the Venza is. I also predict there will many copies (if the auto industry survives).
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UH2L
I think it looks nice from the outside, but it is a slightly taller station wagon for people who don't have the self-esteem to drive a wagon. I'd still rather have my 9-3 SportCombi which is lighter, handles better, and gets better fuel economy with probably not much less cargo space. On the inside, I can't stand how the shifter section intrudes into the center console.
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dyost
Good on Toyota.
Chevrolet couldn't find the market for Malibu Maxx and gave up! Hopefully, Toyota will show them how to do it.
I own a 2004 Malibu Maxx and to me, this Toyota is a Maxx!!
Passenger comfort for 4 (huge) adults and the ability to carry a 10 foot folding ladder with the deck lid closed is handy and why I own one.
I can't tell you how many times my wife and I have been to Lowe's or Home Depot and filled the car with home improvement goodies, still had room for the both of us (one in the split back seat) with a car full of 8 to 10 foot baseboard and paint cans... with the hatch closed!
Just awesome.
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The ride height is too low for a crossover. Although, it looks like one. From what I've read it drives very much like a sedan. The interior is very much like an Avalon. It is practical
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